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November 15, 2007

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John Steele

Thanks, Bill, for responding.

The main point in my post dealt with the way your article conflated disparate roles. I found your thesis unpersuasive. I'm continuing to refine my critique on that point and will have more to say later.

I had a secondary point, urging readers not to draw hasty conclusions on an incomplete record; urging readers to hear from both sides; etc. I stand by that point. I was disappointed to see some references on the internet (and here I'm not referring to you, Bill) that struck me as wildly premature and uninformed. I wondered to myself: if I, who specialize in this field, cannot begin to draw conclusions even after reading Bill's article, how can people outside the field jump to the sorts of negative conclusions that reasonable people only draw after careful, sober reflection?

Third, there's a point I am now developing and will add to my next piece on this issue: the relevance of the court procedures and outcomes. When I mentioned that your expert testimony had been stricken, I said that that was "for various reasons" and I didn't suggest that the merits of your argument should be rejected because they had been stricken. It was part of the complicated procedural history and was a recounting of your participation in the matter. As I've said, when an argument with conclusions is presented without all the accompanying data (as your article currently is) then the prudent reader assesses the author's potential bias stemming from being a participant in an emotional, hard-fought series of matters.

But I realize now that it also speaks to another aspect of this matter: what counts as "frivolous." I said in the piece that an expert witness has to run a gantlet of procedrual and substantive tests. When we try to determine whether a particular expert's testimony was frivolous, one thing we can examine is how well she or he ran that gantlet. In other words, did the opinion withstand adversarial scrutiny? As I've noted, the circumstances under which your testimony was stricken do not, in my view, discredit the substantive content of your views.

But if, for example, an expert in a matter "ran the procedural and substantive gantlet," and presented a thesis that was validated by the judge's jury instructions and that was likely to be upheld on appeal, then a reader would have adequate grounds to conclude that the expert's work was neither frivolous nor blame-worthy. So, depending on the circumstances, the litigation results can shed real light on the issue.

It will take me a while to examine the recent defense verdict. But if the record shows that the DRSA withstood a vigorous legal challenge, that would be grounds for drawing conclusions about the DRSA and about anyone who who opined that it would withstand legal challenge.

I realize that sometimes judges and juries get things wrong. And I understand that there were some oddities in that Colorado litigation. (For example, as I understand it, the plaintiffs were on their third set of lawyers and there was an issue about whether obtaining a fourth set would be necessary.) But in general, one way to think about frivilous positions is to ask how well they would fare when tested.

Andrew Perlman

I am grateful that Professor Simon has taken the time to respond to our posts. I have just a few comments in reply.

First, I think Professor Simon's accusations in the Nextel case raise different concerns than the ordinary biases that a scholar may have because of her race, religion, etc. First, in the typical scholarly piece, you can judge an argument on its face. All of the data or information needed to criticize a work is typically readily available. In the Nextel case, by contrast, the relevant materials to assess all of Professor Simon's arguments are not yet publicly available. In light of this lack of information, I think it is entirely reasonable for us as readers to know whether Professor Simon might be predisposed to disagree -- and disagree strongly -- with the defense experts. His role for the plaintiffs certainly creates such a predisposition, which when combined with the lack of publicly available information, argues strongly for caution in assessing Professor Simon's arguments, at least as to the Nextel matter.

A second reason that Professor Simon's article is not like the usual scholarly piece, where an academic brings her own personal biases to the table, is that the article is not just offering a substantive disagreement; he is impugning the integrity of other people. Now, he may be right about his views on the merits in the Nextel matter, but it's quite another matter to call the experts on the other side "enablers" of "pernicious" conduct.

I can't help but think of the many times when I was in practice when lawyers tended to demonize the other side, calling them unethical, unprofessional, etc. It's a natural reaction, in my view, when people take positions contrary to our own, especially when the stakes are quite high. Again, I'm not saying that Professor Simon is wrong to criticize legal ethics experts who engage in bad behavior, but I would have preferred that he did it in a case in which he was not involved. In my view, Professor Simon's accusations are more aggressive than they would have been had he not been involved in the case.

Regarding Professor Simon's claim that his article has more credibility because the defense experts have not responded, Professor Simon himself recognizes that he has put the defense experts in a terribly awkward position. It is a bit unfair for Professor Simon, who acknowledges that he was disqualified and cannot be called as an expert, to expect the defense experts to come out guns blazing regarding their views on a pending matter in which they are to be called as experts. In fact, if they did respond publicly, I'd advise them to get their malpractice coverage up to date, because in my mind, it could give the plaintiffs more fodder for cross-examination. Why would they do that?

I also have some concerns that Professor Simon circulated a draft of his article to the defense experts in a pending case. I could imagine how I would have reacted upon seeing that I was going to be vilified by a well-known academic as a result of testimony that I was planning on giving in a case. It would certainly have a chilling effect, even if I felt quite comfortable with my position. In my view, Professor Simon should not have circulated his article to the experts during a pending proceeding, and he should have waited to post his article until all of the Nextel cases had reached their conclusion.

Finally, I now agree with Professor Simon that a full disclosure about his involvement in the Nextel case *by itself* isn't necessary to assess the merits of his argument. It is the combination of his involvement *and* the lack of publicly available information that causes me to call for caution.

Paul Gordon

The following facts concerning the Colorado action are available for a complete evaluation:

1) The case was pending in Denver District Court, State of Colorado, and is Case Number 2003-CV-893.

2) On October 4, 2007, the Colorado trial court ruled that general releases given to Nextel were not void as against public policy and that the general releases barred the plaintiffs' claims against Nextel.

3) The testimony of Professor William Simon would have been cumulative of the testimony of two other experts who did testify on behalf of the plaintiffs. Unlike Professor Simon, the other two experts were licensed to practice law in Colorado and had not written and distributed a draft of an article the author intended to publish after the trial. The order striking Professor Simon's testimony was a formality accomplished after the decision was made not to call Professor Simon to testify under the circumstances.

4) Professor Simon did not disclose to Colorado counsel the content of the draft article until Professor Simon's deposition. In particular, Professor Simon did not disclose the fact that he criticized other testifying experts by name and thereby jeopardized the independence of his opinions for the purposes of his credibility at trial. As for Professor Simon's suggestion that he did not receive documents in a timely fashion, the readers are welcome to review the Denver District Court public record, which speaks for itself.

5) On November 7, 2007, the Colorado trial court ruled that, as a matter of law, a client can consent to the type of conflict created by the DRSA, provided that the client receives adequate disclosure.

6) On November 8, 2008, the Colorado trial court instructed the jury to find that the defendants had not breached a fiduciary duty to the plaintiffs so long as the defendants provided the plaintiffs with adequate disclosure of the conflict created by the DRSA.

7) On November 8, 2008, the Colorado jury found that the defendants had not breached a fiduciary duty, implicitly finding that the plaintiffs had received adequate disclosure of the conflict.

8) I am the Colorado counsel, and I would be happy to answer any questions I am permitted to answer without violating Colo.RPC 1.6. However, I do not intend to monitor this site, so you may direct your questions to me as follows:

Paul Gordon
650 South Cherry Street, Suite 835
Denver, Colorado 80246
303-756-0800 x104
pgordon@gorlaw.com

James Ryan, Colorado attorney

Paul Gordon, Denver attorney is the most unethical attorney I have ever met. Many volumes could be written about his improprieties. Nothing he says is trustworthy or credible and that is a fact. Ironic that he writes about credibility and witnesses. So much so that I felt compelled to have to address this.

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