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November 18, 2011

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Carolyn Elefant

Thank you for your comments. I agreed with the Commission's approach to cloud computing in its proposal regarding technology and confidentiality. What I don't agree with however are the amendments to Model Rule 5.3 which would classify "cloud computing" as outsourcing and impose on lawyers an ongoing duty to monitor. We all recognize that when lawyers hire people outside the law firm - be they freelance attorneys, paralegals or document management, we have both a duty to act prudently when hiring the service, but also to engage in continued oversight and monitoring.

The same obligation DOES NOT apply to passive, commodity services like banking/IOLTA, phone service - or legal research services. In those cases, we are, of course, expected to be prudent in our selection of the service and act responsibly in our use of the service. For example, if we receive IOLTA statements showing money being stolen from trust accounts, we can't simply ignore that. But we're also not required to question bank personnel every month or constantly evaluate the stability of our bank.

That's why the changes to Rule 5.3 are so dangerous. By classifying cloud computing as traditional outsourcing, the rules impose an ongoing obligation of oversight which is not applicable to phone service, IOLTA or legal research -- or at least has never been before. My point here is that it is inherently hypocritical - and a double standard - to call cloud computing traditional outsourcing when none of these other services have been similarly categorized as such. And if we do include passive services in the meaning of "nonlawyer assistance," then aren't we opening the door to including LEXIS, phone service in the definition as well?

By the way, the point that other bars are treating cloud computing as outsourcing should be irrelevant to the Commission's determination. I thought that the whole point of the Commission was to lead the way on ethics rules - to set the gold standard that states would follow, and not to simply parrot the parochial decisions written by other bars.

Andrew Perlman

Thanks for the reply. I think our disagreement centers on the following concern that you raise: "By classifying cloud computing as traditional outsourcing, the rules impose an ongoing obligation of oversight which is not applicable to phone service, IOLTA or legal research -- or at least has never been before."

I agree with you that the proposed Comment would classify cloud computing as a type of outsourcing, but I don't see how the Comment would "impose an ongoing obligation of oversight" regarding every outsourcing service that the lawyer uses. The proposed Comment says that lawyers have to ensure that the outsourced "services are provided in a manner that is compatible with the lawyer’s professional obligations." Critically, the proposed Comment then says that "THE EXTENT OF THIS OBLIGATION" depends on a number of factors, "including the education, experience and reputation of the nonlawyer; the nature of the services involved; the terms of any arrangements concerning the protection of client information; and the legal and ethical environments of the jurisdictions in which the services will be performed, particularly with regard to confidentiality."

The Comment, therefore, makes clear that a lawyer's obligations are not the same for every kind of outsourcing. Rather, the obligations differ depending on the type of outsourcing that is being used. For example, the Comment would tell lawyers that they need to be considerably more careful and engage in more oversight when using an unproven private investigative service than when using an established bank to maintain an IOLTA account. Of course, as you note, even in the latter case, the lawyer must still exercise some minimal oversight to ensure that the bank is not making mistakes, etc., but the nature of that oversight will be entirely different. The proposed Comment is written in such a way as to allow for these distinctions and to ensure that there is no "one size fits all" approach to outsourcing. In sum, the Commission agrees with you that there can't be a single approach to every kind of outsourcing, and this is precisely why the proposed Comment is written the way that it is.

As for your last point, I think you misunderstood why I cited other states' opinions in this area. I was trying to point out that states have taken an approach to cloud computing that is similar to the Commission's, and the sky has not fallen. Lawyers have not stopped using Westlaw and Lexis; no disciplinary actions have been initiated for using phone services, etc.

Thanks again for your comments.

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