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January 17, 2012

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Monroe Freedman

What's the citation, David?

Rick Underwood

I had quite a bit of stuff on pre-suit investigation techniques (bad techniques) like "roping" and "the mess" in my book Trial Ethics (Little Brown). This was written back in the 80s though. Nobody bought it. I did have a good sale when the six copies in our law library were stolen. (I am not making this up. Somebody stole the Ethics Books!)

I let my students know that investigators have Codes of Ethics, just like (I am not making this up either) real estate agents and Elvis Impersonators. You can have a lot of fun on cross-examination with this stuff. I sent the terse Elvis Code to John Steele, because I thought he probably needed it.

Doug Richmond

Brian Faughnan, Mike Matula and I devote an entire chapter to covert discovery and surreptitious investigations in our recent book, Douglas R. Richmond et al., Professional Responsibility in Litigation (ABA 2011). The Midwest Motor Sports case out of the Eighth Circuit is one of the better illustrations of how things can go wrong.

Monroe Freedman

See also In Praise of Overzealous Representation – Lying to Judges, Deceiving Third Parties, and Other Ethical Conduct, 34 Hofstra L. Rev. 771 (2006).

John Steele

Rick, they're called Elvis "tribute artists" now.

David Hricik

Thanks, all. It's hard to find the right balance b/w civ pro and ethics. I don't want to teach all of 4.2/4.3/3.3... in a civ pro course. Andy P. sent me his chapter, which is good, and I'm trying to figure out what to do.

I got married by Elvis, by the way. It is on youtube. No, I am not making that up.

Rick Underwood

New interesting 6th Circuit evidence case, State Farm v. Accident Victims Home Health, 2012 WL 48338. The case is interesting as an evidence case (improper character evidence) but it is discussed at Evidence Prof Blog under the title "State Farm Is There." What happened was that State Farm had reason to think claims filed by AVHH etc were fruadulent, and they conducted a subrosa surveillance of the services employees - got video of service employees doing nothing for the patients, goofing off, etc.. So I guess the sub rosa investigation is not dead after all. The opinion did not discuss the details, which is a shame. Presumably the patients were in on it.

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