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April 11, 2012

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Patrick S. O'Donnell

Spot-on: Should become a textbook illustration of improper behavior, indeed, both before we get to the rules and with regard to the rules. Were it that a reporter learned how to call a lawyer (or lawyers) out for such stuff at the news conference itself!

Patrick S. O'Donnell

One other thing: As someone who has given some thought to the question of the part played by "the ethical" outside the scope of professional ethics proper (although I've yet to publicly share them), it is quite disconcerting to see instances where even clear and simple rules of the profession are, apparently, so blatantly ignored and egregiously violated. You need not apologize for the strong language, as it's perfectly warranted in this case.

Alice Woolley

I think that's right Patrick, and it's actually one of the reasons why I've always been a bit uncertain about the idea that what we really need is for lawyers to achieve a standard beyond the terms of the rules. As often as not simply following the rules could make a big difference to ethics (w.r.t. competence, for example).

John Steele

Agreed. As a result of my work experiences, I've concluded that a lot of lawyers just aren't particularly self-reflective. Others could be, but are too busy to stop and reflect. Many are caught up in the heat of battle and their more reflective side shuts down. Some really are reflective, and find the time to reflect, but have concluded that the rules justifiably set the metes and bounds of the game. A few just aren't good people. In all those cases, the rules themselves have to do a lot of work.

To be clear: I agree with Andy that the former lawyers apparently crossed the line on confidentiality. By coincidence, I was presenting yesterday afternoon to criminal defense lawyers and we all agreed that Zimmerman's former lawyers had blown it.

anne smith

"Reckless lawyering" has become the modus operandi of most big law firms today. It's all about the money and "winning" by any means possible. Especially in civil law, few big law lawyers even stop to think about the truth of their client's requests to sue. Any allegation will do, any means to damage the opponent will do. Threats and phone calls to the opponent's business connections to force that opponent into financial distress, or to other lawyers to threaten them if they take the case, are unethical but cannot be "proven," since they are verbal. The lack of ethics in the legal profession at all levels today is destroying the rule of law, and judges are going along with it.

Judith_IP

I did hear something interesting on NPR about this. According to the reporter, Zimmerman had gone to Fox News and told them that these two were "not his lawyers" they were merely is "legal advisors." Which certainly implies that the client disclaimed the attorney-client relationship.

Although I do agree with you that the lawyers shouldn't be holding press conferences in any case.

John Steele

Judith_IP, thanks for that info.

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