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August 30, 2012

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John Steele

Great question. Cynthia Godsoe recently posted on a similar topic at Prawfsblawg.

http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2012/08/whats-in-a-name.html

Monroe Freedman

From 1975 (Lawyers' Ethics in an Adversary System) to the present (Understanding Lawyers' Ethics), I have called it none of the above.

Andrew Perlman

Monroe, when someone asks you what you write about, what do you say? Lawyers' ethics?

Monroe Freedman

Yes, always. See, e.g., Misunderstanding Lawyers’ Ethics, 108 Mich. L. Rev. 925 (2010) (with Abbe Smith) (a review of Markovits' book, which has "Legal Ethics" in it's title).

Monroe Freedman

Andy, How do you answer when a non-lawyer asks you what you teach?

Andrew Perlman

Monroe, I typically say that I write about "legal ethics." I'm not satisfied with the label, but I don't think there is a single phrase that can be fully accurate.

Conceptually, I see some benefit in using your phrase "lawyers' ethics," but the distinction between that phrase and "legal ethics" is probably lost on most non-lawyers (and perhaps most lawyers).

Monroe Freedman


Monroe Freedman

Not just conceptually, but grammatically. "Legal" means pertaining to law. "Legal ethics" might more accurately be the study of the ethicalness or morality of laws or of the legal system.

"Lawyers' ethics" means the ethics of lawyers, which, as the much-abused phrase "role differentiation" expresses, is what makes our subject distinct from others.

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Monroe Freedman

And no one has ever asked me what Lawyers' Ethics means.

More important, Andy, could we simplify the verification for posting a comment? It's driving me mad (as some may have noticed).

Andrew Perlman

Let me see what I can do about the verification process. It is designed to prevent spam comments, and I don't know if typepad has other options for preventing the spamming.

Andrew Perlman

Monroe,

I just removed the authentication feature. We'll see if the spamming increases noticeably. If it doesn't, we'll leave it off. But if it does, we'll have to turn it back on. There is a button you can push to generate new codes if you can't read the authentication codes. (I have trouble reading them myself sometimes.)

Andy

Monroe  Freedman

Thank you, Andy.

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