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October 22, 2012

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John Steele

Steve, I don't see any chance of a challenge on that point, but I would be interested to learn if the Democratic advantage is expected to last. What is driving the change on which party gets the better deal from the EC?

Stephen Gillers

Well, the challenge may fail but it is discussed and I bet some will encourage it. After all, we have court challenges by "birthers." What is causing the change: growth in urban areas and in minority voting, especially Hispanic. States once reliably Republican at the national level are no longer. The New England states are the best example ("As Maine goes....") Colorado was once a sure thing for the Republicans. Even New Jersey. California was a swing state. The Republican Party's stark move to the right is causing it to lose national ticket voters. Well, we'll see.

Jack Marshall

And, of course, there is this: it ain't gonna happen. If the popular vote isn't within 1.5%, and it won't be, the electoral vote mess is extremely unlikely. Fun to talk about (I guess), but fanciful.

Richard Painter

The court challenge would have to be based on the tally in one or more states as it was in 2000. I cannot see how a constitutional challenge of the electoral college itself could survive even a Rule 11 sanction when the constitution itself calls for the electoral college to select the president.

On the merits I repeat the point I made in 2000. The candidates know what the rules are and invest their time and money accordingly (e.g. not much in Texas, New York and California, among other states). There is no point speculating about how they would have played the game if they had been bound by different rules nor is there a point in speculating about who would have won.

As many of us said in 2000, the rule could be that the winning candidate must win his or her own home state. Under that rule also this time the tables might be turned. But the answer to that also is so what?

Lloyd Green

Sitting here in the UK, it seems incredible that in the most advanced country in the world, before the election has even happened both sides seem to have lawyers lined up to contest aspects. Does this show that there is a major problem in the uS electoral system or society or a mature legal system where nothing is off the table for legal dispute if it's wrong ?

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