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December 02, 2012

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Mike Frisch

Great idea.

The students also would learn something about how the profession self-regulates and how the state bar admininisters the arbitration program.

John Steele

@Mike, good point. The MFAA's in California are confidential and the hearing isn't open, but I wish I could take students to them.

Steven Lubet

Many of the subject areas undertaken in clinics might be called liberal, but only because conservatives disdain such cases. For example, there is nothing inherently liberal about challenging wrongful convictions – as we do here at Northwestern – but conservatives typically don’t do that sort of work. I really don’t know why, as it is obviously a situation without any market solution and conservatives as well as liberals ought to object to wrongful convictions.

In my own long-ago days as a clinician, I concentrated on consumer cases – that is, contracts litigation. Again, there is nothing particularly liberal about enforcing consumer protection laws, but only liberals seem to be interested in it. Likewise, refugee asylum cases, which we do at NU, which is also a form of law enforcement.

At Northwestern, btw, we also have a Shareholder Protection Clinic and a Small Business Opportunity Clinic, as well as a program that concentrate on mortgage fraud.

John Steele

Steven, thanks for posting. I'm not invested in the left-right fight except that I'd observe strictly as a descriptive matter that the large majority of clinicians I've spoken too are quite open about being progressive-left (both at their clinics and across clinics nationwide). Of course there are exceptions and nothing is 100% this way or that. For a variety of reasons, though, I'd expect that general political orientation to continue unabated.

But would you say that as a descriptive matter law school clinics don't tilt left in the US? Is that just factually wrong?

David Cameron Carr

It is a great idea.

Steve Lubet

Sure, most clinical teachers are liberals, but so what? The more interesting question is why so few conservatives are interested in challenging wrongful convictions and similar work. Unlike Bainbridge, I won't cast any aspersions (in his full post, he suggests without evidence that conservative students are "harassed out" of clinical programs), but it sure seems to me that critics of "big government" ought to be equally skeptical of prosecutors. There's gotta be an explanation, right?

John Steele

Steve,

Thanks. As I said, I have no dog in the left-right fight but I would be interested to hear any learned views casting doubt on the idea that clinics are by and large left leaning.

My main point for that post is that there is a potential clinic that would be deeply educational for law students and helpful for the down-trodden clients of the world.

Steve Lubet

I guess I am not making my point clearly, John. To say you have "no dog in the fight" implies that there is a fight. There isn't. There is nothing inherently right or left about most clinical work, except that conservatives don't seem to be interested. If more conservatives were involved in consumer protection, would that make it right leaning? The representation would be the same.

Most football coaches are Republicans, for example, but that doesn't make football "right leaning."

John Steele

Steve, my apologies for not following your point!

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