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February 06, 2013

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Richard W. Painter

I agree. Whether or not the legal conclusions in these memos are correct, the issues need to be discussed in public, and furthermore with an eye not just to what the law will allow but also what is the right thing to do.

Milan Markovic

Brad,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.

I do not have a problem with the legal analysis found in the White Paper, although I certainly hope that the OLC memo is released sooner rather than later. It is extremely unfortunate that the American public (to say nothing of allies abroad) have to try to gleam the legal rationale for the targeted killing program from speeches, white papers, and news stories.

On the question of who decides, if you accept that the U.S. is in a global non-international armed conflict, then IHL applies. This is a controversial position but for better or worse seems to have been accepted by some U.S. courts. To the credit of the White Paper's authors, they recognize the controversy and grapple with the relevant standard from Tadic.

IHL does not require due process for targeting decisions although it does require distinction between combatants and non-combatants. So on the question of "who decides," isn't the answer pretty clearly in the U.S. system the commander-in-chief? The "high-level official" formulation strikes me as sloppy, but from what I have read about the program, Obama is consulted on every target. Obviously the legal issues get more complicated when the target is an American citizen (hence the white paper's discussion of imminence and alike), although IHL does not recognize a difference between citizens who join enemy forces and non-citizens.

My reading of the White Paper is that it also took some of the issues raised by Brad concerning unchecked executive power very seriously, even if the balancing test it advocates might be unsatisfactory.


Patrick S. O'Donnell

I’ve put together a document of the various leading analyses and comments to date “out there” on the DoJ White Paper should anyone want a copy. It’s 32 pages, with hyperlinks (and I think I captured most of the embedded hyperlinks as well) to the original sites from which the material was found. (I even corrected some minor typos!)

Patrick S. O'Donnell

Milan, Any thoughts on this from Michael Dorf (who also raises some interesting issues about 'standing' with regard to challenging the kill-list)?:

The ‘kill list’ is back in the news, with the publication of a white paper that sets out the core of the Obama Administration’s legal rationale for killing American citizens suspected of terrorism. When word of the underlying memo first leaked in the fall of 2011, I noted my puzzlement at how it appeared to blend analysis based on both a war paradigm and a domestic law enforcement paradigm, but I have since come to think that this approach was more or less required by Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, which applied a due process paradigm developed in the context of civilian cases to the detention of Americans captured in war. The white paper confirms the Administration’s reliance on Hamdi.

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