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February 11, 2013

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John Steele

Brad,

Nice post. Lots to think about. I have to agree that sometimes the legal profession has wanted the academic institutions and sometimes chafes at what it's asked for.

Regarding adjuncts, you’re right that being a lawyer doesn’t necessarily equate with being a valuable adjunct. I’ve seen lots of talented, thoughtful lawyers fail as adjunct.

I wonder how hard schools work at evaluating adjuncts. Having taught at five schools now, only one has systematically focused on the quality of adjunct teaching and even then the focus is of recent origin. That school has invigorated the evaluation process, dropped adjuncts who don't perform at a certain level, held meetings with each adjunct to discuss specific areas for improvement, set specific goals to be achieved, and then looked to see if the goal was met. It’s been a real sea change. I have no doubt that the overall quality of adjunct instruction has improved. At the other schools, adjuncts get emailed a pdf of the student evals but the basic feedback tended to be of the variety that partners give to associates: “we gave you more work [i.e., invited you back].”

To take this a step further, if a school wants to increasingly rely upon adjuncts to save money and increase practice-based instruction, the school should institute some quality control of the sort you see in industry. Yearly meetings to go over evaluations are pretty standard in the real world. They might also change the pay structure from the current system (@$5-7k) to something that’s still small but is more substantial. That may incent the adjuncts differently, for the benefit of the school. Pay a little more and demand a lot more. Assemble a corps of quality adjuncts, treat them better, and demand more of them.

Now, I could be wrong about all this, based upon my limited sample. Perhaps lots of schools have lots of evaluation and quality control. But that’s not what I’ve seen.

Finally, one small quibble. I think that Harry Edwards talked about “growing disjunction” rather than “growing detachment.” Detachment can be a good thing, as you note. Edwards framed the “disjunction” as arising from firms chasing profits and schools chasing theory, thereby abandoning the important middle ground of ethical practice. So he blamed law firms too—which seems appropriate.

Brad Wendel

Oops, you're right John -- it's "growing disjunction." You're right that the part of the Edwards article I was reacting to was the bit about schools chasing theory. One of the complaints I hear most frequently from practicing lawyers is that tenured and tenure-track law professors produce a lot of useless scholarship, so I often find myself defending the ideal of knowledge for its own sake. That's why I think it is important to point out that the legal profession sought out the association with universities, and that the social prestige associated with universities (even if that may be declining somewhat today) is related to their mission of cultivating communities of scholars engaged in research aimed at developing knowledge for its own sake. I realize universities enter into public-private partnerships and interested in finding ways to monetize some of the research they conduct -- we just made a big play to become the Stanford of the northeast by beginning development of the NYC Tech campus. Nevertheless, it is clear that too much concern for the interests of business enterprises would be inconsistent with the mission of the university. Law schools walk an interesting tightrope, because we are a professional school (and are expecting students to take out loans or self-finance an extraordinary tuition burden), but we are also part of the university. We potentially err by either (1) seeing our mission as churning out new associates, requiring minimal training and perfectly adapted to the needs of large law firms, or (2) getting so caught up in the production of knowledge for its own sake that we fail to attend to our students' legitimate interests in learning how to become lawyers.

Milan Markovic

Dear Brad,

This is an interesting and even-handed take on reform. I hope that you consider submitting your thoughts to the ABA Task Force on Legal Education: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/taskforceonthefuturelegaleducation.html . I suspect that many Professional Responsibility professors would agree with the incremental approach you advocate.

My concern is that top-down reform might do more harm than good at this point in time given that there are many interesting experiments afoot, particularly with respect to the third year of law school, and states like New York are being increasingly active in changing bar admission requirements.

William Gallagher

Belatedly, very thoughtful comments by all. As for legal scholarship, it's an easy target, since a lot of academic research is mediocre in any discipline, maybe more-so in law because of the insular culture of legal academia and non-peer reviewed journals for the most part. But also lots of good stuff--even if obscure, etc. And it is true that good scholarship benefits teachng.

One further point on the alleged disjuncture between legal scholarship and practice: the function of legal scholarship may have changed in the past 30 years. Practitioners don't need law profs to crank out practice-oriented articles or treatises because there are huge industries that do this outside of academia.

Lastly, John's points on adjuncts are good ones. I, too, was an adjunct for 10 years before full-time academia. Three law schools, not a single peep into my class or talk by a faculty member to make sure I taught well (for the record, I did!). Even better, one school (to remain un-named, was dinged by the ABA for not supervising adjuncts, so it assigned a "faculty mentor" for each adjunct and held a nice dinner introducing us all in a group. I had a nice dinner and never heard again from my "mentor"

It is hard to require good and creative teaching by adjuncts, but John's idea to pay more and demand more may be the key.

Bill

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